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Eliot Kern's avatar

Even if he had said they are all liars, and Paul agreed that they are all liars, surely that doesn't commit Paul to saying that every individual proposition they utter is a lie?

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Parker Settecase's avatar

Yeah, that's reasonable. He is citing Epimenedes though and the line is "all Cretans are always liars" from him. So to affirm that would raise the problem but yeah Paul doesn't quote verbatim.

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Eliot Kern's avatar

Ah yeah I see what you mean - wow that's a massive claim from Epimenedes lol

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Parker Settecase's avatar

Haha yeah but I think he was intentionally raising the Liar Paradox as a puzzle when he said that

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Joshua Rankin's avatar

Would this fall under the law of noncontradiction? A thing can't be and not be simutaneously. But does a problem arise if it's neither? Is it possible for it to be neither, or am I lost and grabbing for a connection😂

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